Dating paiste cymbals
i had a "Tosco by Sabian" cymbal in 1986 as part of a new Tama Swingstar I bought back then (great, extremely underrated drums by the way..this day the loudest double headed drumset I ever played). I do, however, play UFIP's almost exclusively now, and think their offerings, especially in the "Class" line, are the most musical cymbals on the market today.
A Zildjian Stamp Timeline Chinese Cymbals G Zildjian Cymbal Mystery Italian (UFIP) Cymbals K Zildjian - Canada & US Timeline K Zildjian - Constantinople Timeline K Zildjian - Istanbul Timeline Stamp Anomalies (new) The city of Turkey officially changed its name from “Constantinople” to “Istanbul” in 1930.
The font for the bottom word “Zildjian” grew taller in this stamp.
This is the only difference I’ve ever been able to see and it makes this stamp difficult to distinguish. This stamp is distinguished by the position of the star further away from the inside of the moon.
Mark, Here is the easiest way to find the age of your cymbals.
If the cymbal has a 7 digit serial, the last 2 numbers are the year. Depending on the cymbal you may still need to do some research about the series and logo, but you will have a much better starting position.
The phrase ‘Made in Turkey’ appears more horizontal on this stamp, that is: less hooked around the moon.
This is the only stamp with this arabic script and the spread out “Made in Turkey.”This 16″ cymbal has a lathing pattern sometimes seen on cymbals from this era, where the tonal grooves are clustered closer together, then spread apart in concentric circles. This image, from a polished cymbal, provides the most detailed image of the Arabic, while the star above the crescent is missing.
Just enjoying my many months of unemployment until I try to enlist within the next month or so. If the serial # is 6 digits, the last number will tell you the DECADE of the cymbal Example 123456 = the cymbal was made in 1966, 1967, 1986, 1996 or 2006 You have to do a little looking at the series and the logo to get to the exact year.Stamp I used a smaller font which was shorter than the star and moon.This stamp is almost identical to IIa except that it has a big K.These cymbals are referred to as "Pre-Serial" cymbals.It should also be noted that it is not uncommon for serial numbers to be difficult to read due to hammering and lathing.A number of cymbals manufacturers were founded in Pistoia after the*First World War, starting a competition.On January 6, 1931 four companies (Marradi-Benti, Zanchi & Biasei, Rosati Leopoldo and A. Fratelli Tronci) founded a*cooperative society*called UFIP to stop the competition between cymbals manufacturers.*In 1947 Zanchi left UFIP to start his own company, Zanchi*(later spelled "Zanki").*In 1968 UFIP changed from a cooperative society to an actual production company.*The grandson of Rosati, Buiani, co-founded with Giovanni Spadacini the Tosco company in 1974.In 1979,*Robert Zildjian*took over Tosco and transformed it in a*Sabian*subsidiary.Still, the tight wrapping of the words “Made in Turkey” identify it as IVb.The intermediate stamp replaces the former block of Arabic text with some sort of gibberish symbols. The English component of this stamp always seems to have some stamping problem, so it is often illegible.I'm in the process of listing a bunch of cymbals and I have several old Sabians- I did a google search to find a site dedicated to dating Sabian cymbals, but nothing came up. drummers don't have piles of money laying around, just piles of drums." -- Gord the Drummer Haha! I can't figure out why rivets were put in this thing, it's so thick! Doing some research it seems that the Italian cymbal company Tosco was the beginning for Sabian and was tasked to make cymbals under the Sabian name. "95% of the average 'weekend warrior's' problems could be solved by an additional 30 minutes of insightful practice." -- Anonymous "Let's be honest... Here's the weirdest cymbal in the lot: a 22" 3470g Ride with 4 rivets.